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November 17, 2008
Buffalo's Musical Fame
I was at a party the other day and we were talking about now-famous bands that had originated in small cities. Most of the people in the discussion were from either the Pittsburgh or Scranton areas. I didn't have much to offer there. I was the only one from the Buffalo area. Not too many big name popular bands have come from Buffalo. Probably the biggest act from Buffalo that most people know about is the Goo Goo Dolls, but they got their start years after I left Buffalo. I mentioned that I thought that the Grass Roots had gotten there start there, but I really put my foot in my mouth on that one. A false memory. My head is getting more and more full of them! But the band I was trying to remember was a band that had a bit of their sound: tightly textured pop with rich vocal harmonies.
To find out what band I had been trying to think of at the party, I did some web searches to dig up information about the bands from back in my day. That's actually amazingly hard to do. Most old acts don't have much of a web presence, unless they're still performing. And if you're not careful in structuring your web search, when you search for 70s era bands, you'll get the agent contacts for current bands that play 70s music. But after digging around a bit, I found the home of the Buffalo Music Hall of Fame.
What a great idea! Since 1983, the organization has, according to its web site, recognized "groups and individuals who have had a
significant impact on the WNY music scene and/or achieved
success in the music industry on a national and often an
international scale." The site has an impressive list of inductees, including nationally known talent like the Goo Goo Dolls, Ani DiFranco, the 10,000 Maniacs, Spryo Gyra, and Rick James. But there are more obscure contributors to the national music scene: Robert Moog, an early pioneer of the music synthesizer; Richard Kermode, a keyboardist who worked with Santana, Janice Joplin, and Patti LaBelle; and studio guitarist extraordinaire Tommy Tedesco. The big thing missing from the Hall is Buffalo's contributions to the national music scene in classical music. The Buffalo Philharmonic Orchestra is in the Hall, and it rightly deserves to be there. It has always been one of the great small-city classical orchestras, and has been devoted to opening the world of the classics to people of all ages. But past conductors Lukas Foss and Michael Tilson Thomas have contributed to Buffalo's standing in the world of classical music, and JoAnn Falletta today continues the BPOs fine tradition. None yet have found a home in the Hall.
One of the things I enjoyed most about the Hall's web site was the opportunity to recall the names of some of the big local bands of my day. Mazurland readers of a certain age will remember the bands Weekend, Big Wheelie and the Hubcaps, Junction West, and The Road (which may have been the band I was trying to think of at the party), and personalities such as DJ Danny Neverth. Hank will remember Frank Scinta, SJCI class of 75, who still performs with the Scinta Family. Older Mazurlanders will remember musician, teacher, and music store owner Art Kubera. Younger Mazurlanders will recall seeing Talas perform in the 80s.
The bands were the big draws at high school dances, summertime jams at public parks, and the music venues and bars around town. A few of my favorites are missing: the Pointless Brothers played a rollicking mix of hippie jam music and bluegrass à la the New Riders of the Purple Sage at the Central Park Grill for many years; the Jumpers were the hottest pop-punk band that ever flamed out over the skies of Buffalo; and why isn't Stan 'Stas' Jasinski, Buffalo's Polka King, in the Hall? But over all, the selections are good, and some of the missing names will fill in, especially if Mazurlanders start nominating.
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In your discussion at the party, I trust you brought up "America's Singing Master", Fred Waring", who has Penn State roots, and is also the namesake of the Waring blender.
When I'm in a carefree mood, I still love to sing "Collegiate", done by Waring and the Pennsylvanians.
Posted by: Chris | Nov 18, 2008 7:10:32 AM
I did not, because the topic was groups from the 60s and 70s. Plus, everyone around her (except the students, who were born yesterday) knows about Fred Waring. There's a street named after him. Waring was born in Tyrone, PA, which is about 35 miles from here. (You may remember driving through the small city as we went to State College from Prince Gallitzin State Park a couple of years ago.) Waring was still around in the 60s and 70s, doing the occasional TV show. He died in 1984.
Posted by: Marty | Nov 18, 2008 7:57:09 AM
Marty---some Polack you are
Stan Jasinski's nickname is "STASH" with a short "a", which is short for the Polish "STASHU"--Wassamattafoyou?
I didn't check the site, but the band the "Electric Prunes" should be on it as well. They had a song in the top 40 in the 60's titled "I HAD TOO MUCH TO (DREAM) LAST NIGHT". I have it on a 45RPM.
They were a bunch of Riverside boys who practiced in the Town Boys Club. It's in that forgotten corner of the Town of Tonawanda, those 4 blocks at the foot of Tonawanda St in Riverside which lay north of Vulcan St, putting it over the Buffalo city line. Tonawanda St does a Dead End at the Chevrolet Motor Assembly Plant parking lot.
I spent lots of time at the Boy's Club growing up, and those guys beat on that song for about 4 months before they cut it. I know the people on Roswell st were happy they were done, because they played it and their B side for hours on end perfecting it.
A "One hit wonder", but they still play it here in NC on WXRC 95.7 "The Ride". Always gives me a chuckle when I hear it.
Posted by: Hank | Nov 18, 2008 8:20:15 AM
Hank, after my comments last week on Chris's gołąbki post and your rather ill-informed rejoinders in that same space, who the heck are you to question my knowledge of Polish? But I did make a mistake in not using the proper orthography. It's "Staś", with the dash over the "s". It gives the "s" and "sh" sound. For those who don't know, "Staś" is short for "Stanisław". Hank's rendering is close, but "Stash" would be pronounced incorrectly by an American with a flat "a" to sound like the word meaning where you hide your cannabis. The "a" is pronounced as the "a" in "father".
As for the Electric Prunes, it seems like at least two Mazurland authors need to go on a steady diet of prunes. Gettin' old. Memory fading. The Electric Prunes were from California, as well. With this false memory of yours, Hank, I'll now question all those remarkable things you recall from 35 years ago that I don't remember.
Speaking of "Stan", here's a little Buffalo scoop for those in the blood Mazur family. A few years after my Dad's father died, my Grandma Mazur had a suitor who, despite her avowal that she wasn't interested in remarrying, kept hanging around, doing things for my Grandma, coming to family get-togethers, etc. He had a kooky sense of humor, and also was musical. He would bring his violin along and he and my Dad's sister's husband Ron (trumpet) would carry on stumbling jam sessions. Great entertainment. The guy's name was Stan Szelest. His son, whom we never met, was also named Stan. Stan the younger is in the Buffalo Music Hall of Fame. He was the leader of one of Buffalo's most important early rock bands, Stan and the Ravens. They were big in clubs around town from the early 60s on, but were a bit before my time. The Ravens were extremely influential in the local music scene.
Szelest was also a founding member of the Hawks, which later became The Band. He was only with the band for a year in the early 60s. He later played with Levon Helm and rejoined the Band for a recording session in 1990. Szelest died in 1991 in the recording studio.
Posted by: Marty | Nov 18, 2008 9:28:37 AM
Marty---I was NINE years old, and that's what I was told not only by the other kids at the TBC, who obviously believed it, but by some of the neighbors as well.
Actually, I'm surprised I remember it at all, except you could hear this band going at it 3 blocks away.
The Wikipedia article (NOT TO BE ACCEPTED AS GOSPEL, BTW) never DID say where the members of the band were from. You say tomato, I say WTF?.
Who am I to question your Polish? Nobody special. I admit my ignorance, though I'm considering blowing 250 on Rosetta Stone and starting to learn some. I'm having trouble learning the damn alphabet--which is why I never took Russian, though I wanted to learn the language. And would have taken Latin before Greek.
So---Abscondae Obeseri Illegitimo!!!!
Posted by: hank | Nov 18, 2008 10:44:20 AM
Wow Marty. That IS some interesting trivia.
Why didn't Stan (the elder) tell us? Or did he try, and I just chose to ignore him, as I was apt to do.
Posted by: Chris | Nov 18, 2008 10:44:45 AM
I have some vague (and probably false, considering how things are going lately) memory of him saying something about his son being in a band. I didn't realize the import of it.
Hank: Go to their web site: http://www.electricprunes.com/
Their band history page at http://members.tripod.com/~shadwell/ephist1.html gives the band members' places of birth. None were born anywhere near Buffalo (two were from CA, one from Kansas City, MO, and another from Philly). The site also says that their first gigs, as The Sanctions, were in California.
Posted by: Marty | Nov 18, 2008 11:10:17 AM
Chris,
Stan Szelest told me about his son. He started the converstation by asking what music I liked and listened to. He then asked me if I had ever heard of a band called The Band. I couldn't believe that this near-octagenarian knew of The Band, so I had to ask him who he was talking about. Sure enough he meant, The Band. He told me stories of how the guys from the band would crash in his basement on a Saturday night, then get up to drive to Toronto to perform on Sundays. He talked about the members like they were just kids from the neighborhood, just stopping by the house.
Posted by: Paul | Nov 18, 2008 12:49:35 PM
Art Kubera has tons of stories about local musicians...my favorite one was about Rick James charging off 10k of equipment for some local jam to him and then selling it back for 5k a week later....Art is still kicking in his 80's...I know him well as he is my wife's uncle....
A few years back Art's family had a special birthday party for him at Adam's Como Longe and a bunch of old musicians showed up and made speeches...Dave Cosentino and Kenny Wilzcak amng them...
I can't tell you how many times I saw Talas at local bars....
Posted by: Mike Walsh | Nov 26, 2008 12:15:34 AM
My Mom bought two guitars at Art Kubera's store and took lessons there. After she gave up playing, she sold her guitar back to him for more than she had paid. Of course, it was a Gibson jazz guitar, which had appreciated. Why didn't she call me first? Probably because I was living in California and couldn't have afforded it...
Posted by: Marty | Nov 26, 2008 8:14:22 AM













